Reaction to Toronto Hydro Anemometer Meeting in Guildwood
Before discussing the meeting itself, I would like to start by recognizing that Joyce McLean of Toronto Hydro was kind enough to credential me and Jeff Hume, who assisted with video footage of last night’s meeting as ‘media’. I genuinely appreciate her recognition of bloggers and citizen journalists as having a role in public debate and coverage of events. That part was good news.
For some background, this was the third attempt at a community meeting for Guildwood residents, and I have to say was executed better than the previous two attempts. In fairness, the bar wasn’t high considering the first meeting had to be cancelled due to poor site selection, and the second meeting was stacked by grant receiving supporters of Toronto Hydro who blocked residents rights to speak and shouted them down when they finally got the opportunity to. There were still problems with tonight’s format, all of which serious, some of which may have legal implications.
Toronto Hydro Energy Services is an unregulated subsidiary of Toronto Hydro. Toronto Hydro has one shareholder — the City of Toronto. The City of Toronto has 2.5 million share holders who have rights. The voters. Toronto Hydro is considered a ‘local board’ of the City and therefore must follow certain provisions of the City of Toronto Act or ‘a Stronger Toronto for a Stronger Ontario Act, 2005′. One of those provisions is to hold public meetings. That means doors open. Anyone can attend. I’m sure they can still restrict who speaks, just like City Council can restrict who speaks in the Chamber, but we’re all allowed to be in the Chamber. Legally for the purposes of a meeting like this restricting attendance is sketchy at best, illegal at worst. But they still did.
I spoke to a number of residents and found that all residents who received a notice received one dated January 2nd 2009. The notice had a pin number required to register (something you could only do during office hours) and one had to register by January 15th to attend the January 20th meeting. You could also only register two people. I only spoke to one resident who received a notice before January 15th, they had received it on January 13th and registered successfully. Most residents received the notice after and had to call Toronto Hydro for special permission to attend. There was no public notice to let residents know this was an option.
Chris Tyrrell, President of Toronto Hydro Energy Services, apologised for the error. It was a bit of an empty ’sorry’ considering it was caused by a ridiculous process that is outside the law that governs meetings and likely caused many residents who either didn’t receive or didn’t read the unaddressed ad mail Toronto Hydro sent to them, not to attend the meeting. That means their voices weren’t heard. The National Post is nuts if they think 900 people were in that auditorium. It has a capacity of 960 and there were significantly more than 60 empty seats, even before the Hydro folks offended people, causing walk outs.
I listened to two and a half hours of questions. Not a single resident asked a question or made a comment that spoke remotely favourably of this project. If the slant of questions were considered votes, this would have been unanimous opposition. Toronto Hydro took a bruising from residents. Over the course of the evening the ridiculous non-answers of Toronto Hydro Energy Services staff, namely Jack Simpson, VP Generation, and Joyce McLean, Director of Strategic Issues dodged just about everything they were asked. I will have videos of some of this to follow.
Residents were only given one minute to ask questions, and frustration with the process got so bad on a number of occasions that residents protests temporarily took over the meeting. McLean and Simpson’s answers resulted in groans, mocking cat calls and other signs that residents simply could not believe what they were saying. Hundreds of residents left in frustration as the meeting continued on.
The answer to every question relating to what would constitute a viable project or requests for information about the wind turbine at the EX or the Pickering turbine were met with responses along the lines of ‘that information is commercially sensitive’. Read: so bad, we don’t want to go there. Although if we’re talking about bird deaths, Toronto Hydro can go there to defend turbines. They can also be used to cite experience with these types of projects. When asked if the data they plan on collecting would be publicly available, the answer was no. Because it is commercially sensitive. How you ask? Well that is a good question. Considering Toronto Hydro has already leased the lake bed they plan to put the industrial wind turbine station on, and only they can use their data for financing or throw up these turbines on that site. It’s an answer to a question for a guy who just doesn’t know what to say and is defending a project without merit. Last night that was the story of Jack Simpson.
McLean for her part, attacked research that suggests there is a medical condition called “Wind Turbine Syndrome” that affects residents who live near these industrial applications. She said the data and the forthcoming book, written by a Doctor isn’t valid because it hasn’t been peer reviewed. I’m sure Joyce’s point is really valid for all of those folks living near wind turbines all over North America with similar symptoms… According to Toronto Hydro, their Anemometer data won’t be peer reviewed either. It’s commercially sensitive, remember? Presumably they will try and convince us it’s valid though. She also minimized the bird and bat deaths caused by these things and tried to blame buildings for being the real bird killing culprit. I’m sure Guildwood residents would oppose building buildings off the bluffs too.
Toronto Hydro also tried to suggest that the portion of the bluffs under the water is somehow separate from the bluffs itself. In fact this is the erosion materials from the cliff face and the base of the whole formation. They are one. In fact, I would challenge Jack Simpson who disagrees on this point to get a Geologist to test the materials on the sand bar and compare them to the cliff face. Short of being wet, they are the same. Drilling into one, will cause vibrations and could cause major erosion. I’m not an engineer, but not being an idiot seems like enough to know this will be the case.
Toronto Hydro continues to use deceptive claims when trying to sell the industrial wind turbines we’re not allowed to talk about at meetings. The presentation focused on Denmark’s offshore projects and the fact that Germany has 23 000 megawatts of installed wind energy. Can anyone guess how many offshore wind farms Germany has? – Zero. How many urban wind farms? – Zero. Ok. Moving on to Denmark… Denmark has both, but how many are in residential areas? – Zero. None. Not One. Anywhere in the world is there a wind project in front of a cliff? Nope. No where. This is a completely new idea.
Here is another fun piece of trivia: How many full environmental assessments have actually been done before wind turbine projects have been built in Ontario? HINT: There have been 17 wind projects. Answer? Are you sure you want it? Here goes: Zero. Who needs an environmental assessment when the project has ‘green’ in the title.
Toronto Hydro also likes to talk about coal power and McGuinty’s promise to close all coal power plants by 2014. – Not only will I predict this won’t happen on time, and should McGuinty retire or be defeated, it will probably be shelved all together. Even with 55 000 wind turbines installed world wide, not a single coal power plant has been closed because of it. It’s another bad argument.
I have to say, I was disheartened watching this process play out. It was clear watching the Toronto Hydro Energy Services folks and the local municipal representation that they are sitting there, going through the motions and just waiting to go to Natural Resources to say “see, we consulted”. They did a good job of sitting there, listening and ignoring. The note taker wouldn’t even copy any critical statements verbatim, the only verbatim commentary recorded were the remarks by Hydro officials. Anyone interested in producing a transcript can use www.laforet.ca’s unedited footage of the meeting, but would need to contact me soon so an unedited copy is kept for that purpose.
I strongly believe residents have a right to control the destiny of their communities through collaboration and local democracy. This a core belief I have as it relates to the role of citizens in a democracy. Any process or decision that forces members of a community to organize and fight their elected officials who are complacent or working against them is the sign of real trouble. Guildwood has a Councillor (Paul Ainslie) who slept through this process early on and has forced residents to fight like hell to stop this. He sits on the Toronto Atmospheric Fund which cut a cheque for $100 000 for this project. He sits on Toronto City Council that cut a cheque for $150 000 for this project. How did residents of Ward 43 find out this was even under consideration? Not from their elected official who would have been involved in the process that saw these sums of money approved. Twice. They heard about it from Roy Wright. Roy is a Guildwood resident with unprecedented levels of energy and a deeper commitment to the environment and nature than most. He has spent much of his time in Guildwood fighting to preserve the natural beach below his home. He has probably talked to thousands of people and organized his neighbours. Together they got every one’s attention. Roy should be commended, but he should not have had to do all that he has to ensure his community is given the opportunity to be involved in the decision making process. He and his neighbours should have been at the table from day one, and an integral part of any decision making process. Listening to our communities shouldn’t be another step, but THE step that decides what does and does not happen. Especially for projects like this that are hardly ‘musts’.
Over the coming days, I will release a number of interviews, and videos from tonight’s meeting. I don’t have a timeline on this, but there should be some news on this front in a couple of days. I don’t expect anyone in the traditional media will have the courage to call Hydro out on this process or the overwhelming opposition the idea has received (none did last time), and therefore I will devote a significant amount of my time to allowing residents voices to speak for themselves so their voices can be heard above the elected officials who won’t fight for them downtown and above Toronto Hydro Energy Services attempts to quell their voices.
Agreat website is http://www.savethetorontobluffs.com/ It is maintained by a strong group of Guildwood residents who are standing up for their community and want their voices heard. Take a look.
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January 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
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January 21st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Thanks John! A well-said and well-written summation of the whole frightful mess.
The fact that THES is not prepared to release (and thereby be open to independent review) the target anemometer figures necessary to proceed with the project, reeks to high heaven.
And the fight continues…
January 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Interesting take on the whole process, John. If it hadn’t been for the occassional vocal cat call from the frustrated community, I would have fallen asleep with the boring, non-answers provided by THES. Their answers were totally non-sensical. Any thinking person could punch holes in their argument large enough to drive a Hydro boom truck through.
It might be a “green” project, but let’s not be green for the sake of being green. Let’s have a green project that is really green. This just might be Mayor Miller’s legacy, “The Mistake in the Lake”.
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Dear John. I have attended both meetings.On Jan.20, in his opening statement the President of Toronto Hydro Energy Services stated no public funding was involved. Later when challenged from the floor,this statement was retracted,without an apology for making an incorrect statement, with the begrudging admission that “limited funding was received from the City of Toronto. What other infomation given at the meeting was incorrect? My best recollection is at the first meeting we were advised that significant funding was being supplied by a manufacturer of wind turbines. Is this correct? If so,would this not be a conflict of interest and tarnish the credibilty of the results
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
One thing strikes me as a little curious. If THES are proposing the wind farm to be 2-4 kms off-shore, why is the anemometer being placed on the near side, at 1.8 km?
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
In her introductory remarks, Joyce Mclean of THES said they were conducting the study to see if there were a (and I wrote this down) “viable wind source”. My question, the last one read, asked: What is a viable wind source? Her response was that she did not know; it would depend on costs of construction. How can you look for a viable wind source if you don’t know what a viable wind source is?
It makes no sense whatsoever and is more of the ongoing, deliberate bafflegab that THES employs around this whole project.
The whole “consultation with the community” process is, in my opinion, cynical and intellectually dishonest.
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Hi Mike, Barry, David and Jan,
Thanks for your comments. I have been speaking to a number of people who share a similiar sentiment and will soon be sharing a piece I am writing that challenges a lot of the facts either presented, omited or muddled during the meeting, while also providing some additional food for thought for concerned individuals to read.
I think there is a lot of agreement that the consultation process is a sham and the scientific methodology they are using is sketchy at best. Our message now just needs to be heard.
June 12th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Hi, very nice post. I have been wonder’n bout this issue,so thanks for posting
July 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Some of us even don’t realize the importance of this information. What a pity.